<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments for Kiwipolitico</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.kiwipolitico.com/comments/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 12:10:41 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Improving intelligence oversight. by Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/improving-intelligence-oversight/#comment-524775</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 12:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9521#comment-524775</guid>
		<description>&quot;That will require background checks and security vetting of staff. Members of the Committee would be required to sign secrecy oaths under penalty of law.&quot;

There&#039;s a bit of a problem here.  The agency currently responsible for providing security vetting services in New Zealand is... *Drumroll* the SIS.*  So by saying that oversight staff need to be security vetted, you are basically giving the SIS the right to choose who will be performing oversight over it.  Which is obviously problematic.

The only solution to this that I can see is to not require vetting, or to set up a third agency in order to vet the oversight people.  Which would be potentially very expensive.

*Technically, the SIS only provides a recommendation and the Chief Executive of the agency makes a decision based on that recommendation.  But in practice the recommendation is binding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That will require background checks and security vetting of staff. Members of the Committee would be required to sign secrecy oaths under penalty of law.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a bit of a problem here.  The agency currently responsible for providing security vetting services in New Zealand is&#8230; *Drumroll* the SIS.*  So by saying that oversight staff need to be security vetted, you are basically giving the SIS the right to choose who will be performing oversight over it.  Which is obviously problematic.</p>
<p>The only solution to this that I can see is to not require vetting, or to set up a third agency in order to vet the oversight people.  Which would be potentially very expensive.</p>
<p>*Technically, the SIS only provides a recommendation and the Chief Executive of the agency makes a decision based on that recommendation.  But in practice the recommendation is binding.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Not surprising. by Tiger Mountain</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/not-surprising/#comment-524513</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiger Mountain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 01:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9454#comment-524513</guid>
		<description>“You’ll never work in this town again Pablo...” movie industry malevolence persists (remember Robyn Malcom and Jennifer Ward Lealand’s treatment during the Hobbit debacle? by Lord Jackson and certain producers). 

Backsides on seats academia is so off putting for most all involved bar the slimiest of functionaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“You’ll never work in this town again Pablo&#8230;” movie industry malevolence persists (remember Robyn Malcom and Jennifer Ward Lealand’s treatment during the Hobbit debacle? by Lord Jackson and certain producers). </p>
<p>Backsides on seats academia is so off putting for most all involved bar the slimiest of functionaries.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Disappointing. by Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/disappointing/#comment-521396</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 21:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9496#comment-521396</guid>
		<description>awbraae and Charlie:

Very good points in both of your comments. It strikes me that many people &quot;of the Left&quot; in the US have retreated into local politics or community issues as a way of making a difference. The inertial weight of the machine is such that people see their hopes for change continually dashed at the federal level, as politicians from the president on down succumb to the Beltway ethos. So the disenchanted have two options: a retreat from activism entirely, which often is very hard for ideologically-driven people; or a re-focus on the local. A third option is, of course, to get all bitter and twisted in the privacy of their own alienated lives.

I take some solace in the fact that in the two places that I use as points of reference in the US--Tucson and Delray Beach--my old lefty friends have done the re-focus on local thing. That has also happened with friends located in other places. So not all is lost, because even small change can be incremental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awbraae and Charlie:</p>
<p>Very good points in both of your comments. It strikes me that many people &#8220;of the Left&#8221; in the US have retreated into local politics or community issues as a way of making a difference. The inertial weight of the machine is such that people see their hopes for change continually dashed at the federal level, as politicians from the president on down succumb to the Beltway ethos. So the disenchanted have two options: a retreat from activism entirely, which often is very hard for ideologically-driven people; or a re-focus on the local. A third option is, of course, to get all bitter and twisted in the privacy of their own alienated lives.</p>
<p>I take some solace in the fact that in the two places that I use as points of reference in the US&#8211;Tucson and Delray Beach&#8211;my old lefty friends have done the re-focus on local thing. That has also happened with friends located in other places. So not all is lost, because even small change can be incremental.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Disappointing. by Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/disappointing/#comment-521198</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 11:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9496#comment-521198</guid>
		<description>There is little vibrancy to the left in the States. Some of us have reconciled ourselves to working towards pragmatic solutions to our many problems and dropped the ideological backdrop. Others, especially in the academy, have retreated to multiculturalism and postmodern thought which translates poorly into social agency and isolates the intelligencia from meaningful purpose. The remainder protest and present factual evidence to those for who evidence matters not. The entire political discourse has been moved so far to the right that feeding kids a school lunch or reconfiguring our tax code to fund education at all is now seen as socialist and unfair to the consumptive prerogatives of the haves. I, too, voted for Obama forgetting the power of political institutionalization in hopes of a reformulation of our principles. Rienhold Niebuhr is now sadly more prescient than even he would have imagined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is little vibrancy to the left in the States. Some of us have reconciled ourselves to working towards pragmatic solutions to our many problems and dropped the ideological backdrop. Others, especially in the academy, have retreated to multiculturalism and postmodern thought which translates poorly into social agency and isolates the intelligencia from meaningful purpose. The remainder protest and present factual evidence to those for who evidence matters not. The entire political discourse has been moved so far to the right that feeding kids a school lunch or reconfiguring our tax code to fund education at all is now seen as socialist and unfair to the consumptive prerogatives of the haves. I, too, voted for Obama forgetting the power of political institutionalization in hopes of a reformulation of our principles. Rienhold Niebuhr is now sadly more prescient than even he would have imagined.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Disappointing. by awbraae</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/disappointing/#comment-521125</link>
		<dc:creator>awbraae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 05:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9496#comment-521125</guid>
		<description>Its not Obama so much that has disappointed me, or even his administration. D.C is a city built on corruption, and only the most wide eyed idealist could have expected Obama and co to really bring in a new way of doing business.

No, what has been most disappointing is the mysterious disappearance of the activists and movements that ended up putting Obama in back in 2008. The peace activists who marched against Iraq, where are they now, during the 12th year of the war in Afghanistan? The civil liberties campaigners who repeatedly charged Bush with violating their freedoms through the Patriot Act, who have largely vanished even though the same policies are being followed. The anger that was felt in the wake of bailouts for greedy banks has largely been replaced by passive acceptance of policies that benefit the very wealthy. 

Why aren&#039;t those who were so vocal when Bush was in charge still out protesting, when nothing has really changed? Were those activists just using worthy causes to get their particular politicians into office? If so, that is the greatest betrayal of all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not Obama so much that has disappointed me, or even his administration. D.C is a city built on corruption, and only the most wide eyed idealist could have expected Obama and co to really bring in a new way of doing business.</p>
<p>No, what has been most disappointing is the mysterious disappearance of the activists and movements that ended up putting Obama in back in 2008. The peace activists who marched against Iraq, where are they now, during the 12th year of the war in Afghanistan? The civil liberties campaigners who repeatedly charged Bush with violating their freedoms through the Patriot Act, who have largely vanished even though the same policies are being followed. The anger that was felt in the wake of bailouts for greedy banks has largely been replaced by passive acceptance of policies that benefit the very wealthy. </p>
<p>Why aren&#8217;t those who were so vocal when Bush was in charge still out protesting, when nothing has really changed? Were those activists just using worthy causes to get their particular politicians into office? If so, that is the greatest betrayal of all.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Not surprising. by Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/not-surprising/#comment-520967</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 21:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9454#comment-520967</guid>
		<description>Eric:

I am sure that the lecturer very much appreciated the support he received from your son and other students. But institutional weight and money trumps moral and ethical claims, at least in NZ academia. 

The most telling comment was uttered by the Dean who did the firing at an ERA hearing. When asked why he choose summary dismissal over a host of lesser penalties, the Dean replied that &quot;in a reputation-based enterprise such as academia, he knew that it would end (the lecturer&#039;s) career.&quot; When pressed further he said that the lecturer&#039;s actions had harmed the university&#039;s reputation abroad and that was the action that had to be taken.

And so it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric:</p>
<p>I am sure that the lecturer very much appreciated the support he received from your son and other students. But institutional weight and money trumps moral and ethical claims, at least in NZ academia. </p>
<p>The most telling comment was uttered by the Dean who did the firing at an ERA hearing. When asked why he choose summary dismissal over a host of lesser penalties, the Dean replied that &#8220;in a reputation-based enterprise such as academia, he knew that it would end (the lecturer&#8217;s) career.&#8221; When pressed further he said that the lecturer&#8217;s actions had harmed the university&#8217;s reputation abroad and that was the action that had to be taken.</p>
<p>And so it was.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Not surprising. by Eric Whiting</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/not-surprising/#comment-520945</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Whiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 20:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9454#comment-520945</guid>
		<description>I remember the scandalous sacking of the certain lecturer well. My son demanded his fees back on the grounds that the university  was depriving him of the quality education he had paid for. He was right but, sadly,&quot; management&quot; won .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the scandalous sacking of the certain lecturer well. My son demanded his fees back on the grounds that the university  was depriving him of the quality education he had paid for. He was right but, sadly,&#8221; management&#8221; won .</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Trust in spies. by Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/04/trust-in-spies/#comment-520666</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 06:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9319#comment-520666</guid>
		<description>I haven&#039;t seen it either, but based on the commentary on it I&#039;ve seen, I think it plays down most of the things you&#039;ve just mentioned.

Not that one can&#039;t disagree with the censorship while still disagreeing with the conclusions being censored, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen it either, but based on the commentary on it I&#8217;ve seen, I think it plays down most of the things you&#8217;ve just mentioned.</p>
<p>Not that one can&#8217;t disagree with the censorship while still disagreeing with the conclusions being censored, of course.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Not surprising. by Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/not-surprising/#comment-520593</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 02:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9454#comment-520593</guid>
		<description>Chris: Although in some sense attendance at university is always a means towards another end, the immediacy of that connection in some societies makes the notion of academic integrity (as in doing one&#039;s own work) or the intrinsic worth of intellectual life superfluous to requirements. The idea is to get the degree in order to ascend the social totem pole regardless of the means and ways involved. 

This is compounded by the new academic managerialism that sees students as fees-paying clients. The students are well aware of this and increasingly have adopted the attitude that since they are paying tuition, they will pass their courses and get a degree no matter what. This is not exclusive to Asian societies--there are plenty of native-born Kiwi students with that attitude. Since managers rely on fees in climates of fiscal austerity, they exert pressure on staff to pass even the dim-witted, the dishonest, and particularly the dimwitted, dishonest yet well-monied or connected.

It is a sorry state of affairs and will not change until the regime of academic Taylorism is abandoned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: Although in some sense attendance at university is always a means towards another end, the immediacy of that connection in some societies makes the notion of academic integrity (as in doing one&#8217;s own work) or the intrinsic worth of intellectual life superfluous to requirements. The idea is to get the degree in order to ascend the social totem pole regardless of the means and ways involved. </p>
<p>This is compounded by the new academic managerialism that sees students as fees-paying clients. The students are well aware of this and increasingly have adopted the attitude that since they are paying tuition, they will pass their courses and get a degree no matter what. This is not exclusive to Asian societies&#8211;there are plenty of native-born Kiwi students with that attitude. Since managers rely on fees in climates of fiscal austerity, they exert pressure on staff to pass even the dim-witted, the dishonest, and particularly the dimwitted, dishonest yet well-monied or connected.</p>
<p>It is a sorry state of affairs and will not change until the regime of academic Taylorism is abandoned.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Not surprising. by Chris Waugh</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/not-surprising/#comment-520546</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 22:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9454#comment-520546</guid>
		<description>Yes, Pablo, the Singapore situation sounds very similar to China - and although the ethnic politics works a bit differently in the two countries, I&#039;m sure we could draw some parellels there, too. High school students are under an extreme amount of pressure to do well in the &quot;Gao Kao&quot;/College Entrance Exam to get into a &quot;good&quot; university. Those who get into Peking, Tsinghua, Fudan, Nankai, etc, have it made. And this is also one driver in the demand for a foreign education, as many families wealthy enough, or even those just barely affluent enough to raise a student loan, formally or informally, would much rather send their kids abroad than to a lower-ranked Chinese university.

And lost in all this are the kids, who all too often are allowed little or no say in what they will study where, and who for so many years have been loaded down with books and assignments, starved of sleep and leisure time and told constantly by parents and teachers to study hard, to the point where very many arrive at university without a lot of really basic experience or life skills. So I&#039;m inclined to see assignment4U&#039;s clients as much as victims of this social and educational system as offenders. 

I showed some of my students your article and the Stuff article you linked to, and at first they just laughed it off - they agree that it&#039;s wrong, but cheating on exams and buying and selling assignments are very common, and I&#039;m sure many see it as just one of the ways you survive this system. So it&#039;s certainly no surprise to see them doing the same in New Zealand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Pablo, the Singapore situation sounds very similar to China &#8211; and although the ethnic politics works a bit differently in the two countries, I&#8217;m sure we could draw some parellels there, too. High school students are under an extreme amount of pressure to do well in the &#8220;Gao Kao&#8221;/College Entrance Exam to get into a &#8220;good&#8221; university. Those who get into Peking, Tsinghua, Fudan, Nankai, etc, have it made. And this is also one driver in the demand for a foreign education, as many families wealthy enough, or even those just barely affluent enough to raise a student loan, formally or informally, would much rather send their kids abroad than to a lower-ranked Chinese university.</p>
<p>And lost in all this are the kids, who all too often are allowed little or no say in what they will study where, and who for so many years have been loaded down with books and assignments, starved of sleep and leisure time and told constantly by parents and teachers to study hard, to the point where very many arrive at university without a lot of really basic experience or life skills. So I&#8217;m inclined to see assignment4U&#8217;s clients as much as victims of this social and educational system as offenders. </p>
<p>I showed some of my students your article and the Stuff article you linked to, and at first they just laughed it off &#8211; they agree that it&#8217;s wrong, but cheating on exams and buying and selling assignments are very common, and I&#8217;m sure many see it as just one of the ways you survive this system. So it&#8217;s certainly no surprise to see them doing the same in New Zealand.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Trust in spies. by Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/04/trust-in-spies/#comment-520526</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9319#comment-520526</guid>
		<description>Hugh: If you are referring to biosecurity being the primary source of threats to NZ, I would say that it is partially so. I think that corporate and signals espionage are serious problems, as are violations of the EEZ by state and non-state actors. Domestic self-radicalized ideological extremists, not all of them Muslim, are also potential threats. Not having seen the disputed report and given the official wall of silence surrounding the case, it is otherwise hard to discern where the US analyst stepped on sensitive bureaucratic toes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh: If you are referring to biosecurity being the primary source of threats to NZ, I would say that it is partially so. I think that corporate and signals espionage are serious problems, as are violations of the EEZ by state and non-state actors. Domestic self-radicalized ideological extremists, not all of them Muslim, are also potential threats. Not having seen the disputed report and given the official wall of silence surrounding the case, it is otherwise hard to discern where the US analyst stepped on sensitive bureaucratic toes.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Not surprising. by Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/not-surprising/#comment-520524</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 21:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9454#comment-520524</guid>
		<description>Thanks Chris, for the interesting insights. It is always sad to see what happens when the whiff of money wafts over the educational process. In the US the corruptive influence of money on academic life is most evident in collegiate sports. In NZ, however, it is more pervasive and evident in the diminution of academic standards. 

Your mention of &quot;credentialism&quot; reminds me of my time in SIngapore--it is not the quality of scholarship that matters but where one gets their degree. A C graduate from a &quot;good&quot; university is always favored over an A+ student from an &quot;inferior&quot; institution, regardless of the monetary or familial considerations that go into the choice of school (for example, high performing working class Malay students often have to go to schools that are cheaper than the national university, whereas middle class low performing ethnic Chinese students use the national university as their default option for entry into the public bureaucracy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris, for the interesting insights. It is always sad to see what happens when the whiff of money wafts over the educational process. In the US the corruptive influence of money on academic life is most evident in collegiate sports. In NZ, however, it is more pervasive and evident in the diminution of academic standards. </p>
<p>Your mention of &#8220;credentialism&#8221; reminds me of my time in SIngapore&#8211;it is not the quality of scholarship that matters but where one gets their degree. A C graduate from a &#8220;good&#8221; university is always favored over an A+ student from an &#8220;inferior&#8221; institution, regardless of the monetary or familial considerations that go into the choice of school (for example, high performing working class Malay students often have to go to schools that are cheaper than the national university, whereas middle class low performing ethnic Chinese students use the national university as their default option for entry into the public bureaucracy).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Not surprising. by Chris Waugh</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/not-surprising/#comment-520416</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 12:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9454#comment-520416</guid>
		<description>Pablo, I should be very careful what I say considering I work in the industry that supplies those very same foreign students...

You&#039;re right. 

But also, I often find myself wondering how much those universities actually understand about the countries they recruit from let alone how much they attempt to research. I can tell you that basically everything that happens in New Zealand is reported in some form or another in China, and so anybody thinking of sending a child (really, child - a whole &#039;nother discussion, albeit related to this issue) to study in NZ will find out the good, bad, ugly and whatever else goes on by asking Baidu a simple question or two. I can also tell you that the decision making processes behind sending a child to university are radically different here than what your average Kiwi is used to, as is, far too often, the reasons for the decisions made. Credentialism is an extremely healthy beast in China, and I&#039;m sure it is a major motivation behind assignment4U and the market it supplies.

I could easily rant a lot more on this and many related issues, but I have lessons to prepare for tomorrow... 

I agree with you, though, on who is to blame for this mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pablo, I should be very careful what I say considering I work in the industry that supplies those very same foreign students&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. </p>
<p>But also, I often find myself wondering how much those universities actually understand about the countries they recruit from let alone how much they attempt to research. I can tell you that basically everything that happens in New Zealand is reported in some form or another in China, and so anybody thinking of sending a child (really, child &#8211; a whole &#8216;nother discussion, albeit related to this issue) to study in NZ will find out the good, bad, ugly and whatever else goes on by asking Baidu a simple question or two. I can also tell you that the decision making processes behind sending a child to university are radically different here than what your average Kiwi is used to, as is, far too often, the reasons for the decisions made. Credentialism is an extremely healthy beast in China, and I&#8217;m sure it is a major motivation behind assignment4U and the market it supplies.</p>
<p>I could easily rant a lot more on this and many related issues, but I have lessons to prepare for tomorrow&#8230; </p>
<p>I agree with you, though, on who is to blame for this mess.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Trust in spies. by Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/04/trust-in-spies/#comment-520414</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 12:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9319#comment-520414</guid>
		<description>@Pablo: Do you agree with that analysis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pablo: Do you agree with that analysis?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Trust in spies. by Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/04/trust-in-spies/#comment-520280</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 04:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9319#comment-520280</guid>
		<description>Dave: It seems that his sin was to point out that the threat assessments done by the SIS are exaggerated, and that biosecurity is the primary source of potential threats, not terrorists or Chinese spies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave: It seems that his sin was to point out that the threat assessments done by the SIS are exaggerated, and that biosecurity is the primary source of potential threats, not terrorists or Chinese spies.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Trust in spies. by Dave Waugh</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/04/trust-in-spies/#comment-519940</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 08:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9319#comment-519940</guid>
		<description>When I was a younger my father was a very senior Customs official, at home he would often rant about the SIS being clumsy, amateurish, childish and often just plain moronic buffoons. This would happen after pretty much every time he had to work with them. 
I see not much has changed from the 1980&#039;s.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8624285/US-scholar-embroiled-in-NZ-security-row

Would be nice if they could lift their game somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a younger my father was a very senior Customs official, at home he would often rant about the SIS being clumsy, amateurish, childish and often just plain moronic buffoons. This would happen after pretty much every time he had to work with them.<br />
I see not much has changed from the 1980&#8242;s.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8624285/US-scholar-embroiled-in-NZ-security-row" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8624285/US-scholar-embroiled-in-NZ-security-row</a></p>
<p>Would be nice if they could lift their game somewhat.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Gilmore&#8217;s ghosts by Lew</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/gilmores-ghosts/#comment-519904</link>
		<dc:creator>Lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 06:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9444#comment-519904</guid>
		<description>IHS, yeah -- I very rarely agree with Stephen Franks, but I heard that on Friday and agreed with just about every word of it.

Your last observation is also very apt. He still thinks he&#039;s the victim in all this. He&#039;ll have a good long while to stew on that, for sure.

L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IHS, yeah &#8212; I very rarely agree with Stephen Franks, but I heard that on Friday and agreed with just about every word of it.</p>
<p>Your last observation is also very apt. He still thinks he&#8217;s the victim in all this. He&#8217;ll have a good long while to stew on that, for sure.</p>
<p>L</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Gilmore&#8217;s ghosts by IHStewart</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/gilmores-ghosts/#comment-519895</link>
		<dc:creator>IHStewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 05:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9444#comment-519895</guid>
		<description>I agree completely. While this is at the trivial end of the abuse of power it is still just that. The media need to highlight it. Steven Franks nailed it on Afternoons ( National Radio ) with his comments on character. Or going biblical on you. 
&quot; Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much&quot; Luke 16.10
Sadly we have this situation but in the reverse. His resignation this afternoon was interesting in that it still seems to be all about him.
&quot;....and cause me undeserved further stress,&quot; Gilmore said in a statement.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely. While this is at the trivial end of the abuse of power it is still just that. The media need to highlight it. Steven Franks nailed it on Afternoons ( National Radio ) with his comments on character. Or going biblical on you.<br />
&#8221; Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much&#8221; Luke 16.10<br />
Sadly we have this situation but in the reverse. His resignation this afternoon was interesting in that it still seems to be all about him.<br />
&#8220;&#8230;.and cause me undeserved further stress,&#8221; Gilmore said in a statement.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Gilmore&#8217;s ghosts by In the service of the 9th floor &#124; The Paepae</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/gilmores-ghosts/#comment-519351</link>
		<dc:creator>In the service of the 9th floor &#124; The Paepae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 23:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9444#comment-519351</guid>
		<description>[...] And, I&#8217;ve just seen Lew at Kiwipolitico has written a humdinger of a post, Gilmore’s ghosts which includes this nugget &#8230; If the Aaron Gilmore affair haunts the National party — and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And, I&#8217;ve just seen Lew at Kiwipolitico has written a humdinger of a post, Gilmore’s ghosts which includes this nugget &#8230; If the Aaron Gilmore affair haunts the National party — and [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on Happy for Gilmore by In the service of the 9th floor &#124; The Paepae</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2013/05/happy-for-gilmore/#comment-519343</link>
		<dc:creator>In the service of the 9th floor &#124; The Paepae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 23:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwipolitico.com/?p=9416#comment-519343</guid>
		<description>[...] at Kiwipolitico, offers his own theory for the Gilmore circus and barbecue. See: Happy for Gilmore            Media issues - Politicssmear campaign, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Kiwipolitico, offers his own theory for the Gilmore circus and barbecue. See: Happy for Gilmore            Media issues &#8211; Politicssmear campaign, [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
