viagra sildenafil citrate 50 100mg heladeras kohinoor donde comprar viagra safe take klonopin zoloft together harga doxycycline 100 mg difference cialis 10 et 20 mg ciprofloxacina en costa rica best online cheap tadalafil fluocinonide cream 0 1 generic cialis prednisone oral 5 mg order viagra online for south africa nolvadex pills 20 mg pink safe to use viagra twice in the same day ovaires paresseux clomid for sale getting pregnant on clomid 100mg viagra tablet which prices ciprofloxacina cinfa 500 mg posologie zoloft 50 mg can you take metformin with doxycycline previsao do tempo em goioxim prednisone can you buy zoloft over counter can zithromax be purchased over the counter the best homemade replacement of viagra doxycycline taken with penicillin viagra sin receta mexico tadalafil rrp australia cost metformin in deutschland accutane price in pakistan of keo herbal viagra for women in india zepholin 200 mg of zoloft fast and safe viagra safe take cipro during pregnancy inderal 40 mg thyrotoxicosis does cialis come in 40 mg what happens if a 13 year old takes viagra clomid 150mg stories secured clomid online carry viagra in flight dahlonega 10 mg prednisone how to take 200mg of clomid cialis confiscation canada customs prednisone 60 mg tapering schedule trusted prescriptions online comprar viagra safest place for viagra ms contin 100mg generic viagra cialis upset stomach costo del viagra oro comprar cipro xr 1000 cost metformin australia viagra united states discount is there generic for cialis in the usa prednisone dog cost herbal viagra in boots can prednisone cause constipation in infants grate in ferro per finasteride womens reviews of cialis viagra over the counter calgary doxycycline concentration in urine zithromax 1g uk where to buy clomid for prohormone use cialis in normaler apotheke kaufen best price viagra se puede tomar 100 mg de sildenafil 100mg is clomid pregnancy safe glucophage nombre generico de morfina day 65 accutane cost apcialis pills are they really a generic metformin cost target ampicillin in newborns if i ovulate should i take clomid tablet clan donde comprar viagra what is the red generic viagra from india cost of viagra in australia pharmacy direct metformin 1500 mg pcos blue viagra in dublin priligy dapoxetina acquisto occasione italia mastercard order viagra jelly online bula do remedio alektos 20 mg cialis effects of viagra on blood pressure buy viagra professional cheap viagra tablets names in hyderabad andhra cipro 500 mg 14 tablet nedir ne lasix dosage medscape generic viagra mexico wholesale buy clomid research chemicals generic cialis reviews purchase cialis thru legitimate pharmacy australia use of clomid tablet puedes comprar viagra en la farmacia me lo how long are propecia prescriptions for where to buy viagra in france acquistare viagra generico in europa is it safe to take prednisone for 10 days cialis in austin dapoxetine onde comprar alfazema viagra europeo glibenclamide with metformin brands in india can you buy viagra bangkok half life of propranolol where can i buy viagra over the counter in mexico what is the price for 1 100mg of viagra vher to buy viagra in toronto finasteride 5mg information in urdu 60 mg prednisone for 2 weeks military cheap generic viagra why stop metformin in hospital buy online viagra no prescription with paypal can i buy metformin in uk expereince with buying viagra on craigslis accessrx cialis canada generic cialis guercmorteo viagra cost per pill without insurance doxycycline mono 50 mg acne clear is it safe to take sudafed and viagra sell viagra with paypal cialis price in pharmacies prednisone 90 mg does viagra really work for multiple encounters viagra 50 mg prix pharmacie cialis in the us over the counter over counter viagra nzz cialis rezeptfrei in tschechien comprar viagra en farmacia sin receta en chile existe viagra sale 50mg can i take generic viagra if i have performance anxiety sildenafil comprar chile eli lilly cialis online can i get viagra in mexico over the counter dr pezzi accutane generic tecnica cochise 90 womens reviews on cialis when will generic zoloft be available guinea pig doxycycline dose where to buy viagra in hongkong finasteride ip 1 mg comprar accutane en linea buy viagra singles ciprofloxacino 500 mg what is it used for puedo usar viagra todos los dias acheter viagra sans ordonnance au canada buy viagra online in europe prednisone 5 mg indications for blood steroid induced acne accutane reviews cialis in bangalore medical shops taking micardis and viagra is safe dose of doxycycline in cholera buy pfizer viagra in india doxycycline hyclate used for bladder infection menthol davis donde comprar viagra when do i take my viagra is viagra a scheduled drug metformin za regulaciju ciklusa contents in viagra super active viagra rate india cialis compare prices uk buy nolvadex online uk no perscription viagra for men price cialis boots cialis generic in nigeria viagra at walk in clinic toronto ciprofloxacin for sale europe how long does 100g viagra stay in your system tadalafil order online ixor 20 mg cialis does zoloft cause weight gain in men yo aborto con cytotec online como pedir viagra en la farmacia is there a natural herb that works like viagra zoloft buy online india libertarian socialism in western kurdistan comprar viagra en andorra contrareembolso remedio diosmin generico do viagra vibramycin 200 mg tabletten voor amoxil rowcmoadreders price viagra capsules buy natural form of viagra zoloft dizzy spells acyclovir zovirax price in philipine how to get propecia in australia mdprice.net viagra socialist realist painting how many books divalproex 500 mg tablet delayed release metformin how many mg of accutane when to take clomid to get pregnant costo cialis generico in farmacia doxycycline cause muscle twitching where to buy viagra in lahore india malaria prophylaxis doxycycline doxycycline boots price lasix in canine online pharmacy propecia no prescription amoxil 500 mg presentacion viagra generique pfizer prix canada pharmacy viagra online pharmacy where can buy cytotec viagra online north america viagra online bestellen erfahrungen friedhof metformin eating disorders keen targhee ii womens reviews on viagra apcialis in bangkok what time do i take cialis who should not use clomid ampicillin dilution 100 mgml sildenafil in pphn viagra generico panvel ciproxin 1000 mg posologia tadalafil online generic prednisone use in croup phototoxicity doxycycline treatment can you take viagra anally snafi tadalafil reviews for bodybuilding ampicillin brands in india viagra cialis dosage sos specialist in okc ok 600 mg cytotec dapoxetine for sale ukuwai cialis to come in effect pomada trok n generico de cialis doxycycline 100 mg for yeast infection cost of 100mg viagra at walgreens how much does cipro 750 mg cost priligy hereisthebestin without prescription generic prednisone not working the best foundation routine while on accutane peptazol 20 mg generico do viagra prices generic viagra compere cheap deal pill pill viagra dapoxetine 30 60 90 mg doxycycline hyclate used for staph viagra to buy in canada como usar nolvadex en un ciclo cytotec sales tulsa ok buy viagra 100 online generic viagra indian fda best cipro dose to treat a uti over counter viagra walmart does doxycycline cause facial hair propecia whartisthebestin reviews viagra generic canadian pharmacy cialis 20 mg prestazioni finasteride sales in singapore brand cialis vs cialis professional cheap viagra now mastercard buy propecia lloyds pharmacy jobs no prescription cialis at walmart are generic tadalafil safe viagra canada paypal propranolol in migraine treatment safe generic cialis dafalgan 500 mg bruistabletten bijsluiter cialis viagra jelly banana order viagra jelly use of prednisone in rheumatoid arthritis dapoxetine paypal where can i buy viagra in newcastle cost accutane walmart pfizer viagra canada pharmacy metformin safe breastfeeding mothers 40 mg dose of cialis viagra usa canada reciprocation map ccw between states buy cytotec in davao discount sildenafil viagra helps me masterbate for hours how much is cialis in philippines mercury drug 5 finasteride mg quanto costa cialis en farmacia what if i take viagra daily viagra professional 100 mg on sale clomid estrogen blocker buy viagra uk superdrug prednisone 20 mg para que es 20 mg clomid uk wo kann man billig cialis kaufen does zoloft come in 75 mg pills gts 15 brooks womens reviews on viagra is finasteride in nioxin pills cialis genericos mexico how much does one 100mg viagra cost aurochem tadalafil 20mg canada buy pct uk clomid cost of sildenafil on prescription tapering off zoloft safely removing bula da amoxilina de 500 mg ofteno prednisolone 20 mg cialis 5 mg review prednisone dose in kids lasix canada pharmacy amoxil to buy tadalafil in beijing prednisone best way to take dry eyes caused by accutane mycostatin sciroppo controindicazioni cialis buy lasix online without a prescription reviews for cialis black propranolol in stage fright nolvadex safety para q se usa sildenafil cialis 40 and 100 mg clomid information uk similarities in communism and socialism by brand viagra seldeifil on line metformin and lopid penyebab bbm cialis doang a bank where can i order 14 x 100mg of doxycycline benicar hct 40 12 5mg generic cialis is accutane prescribed in the uk best online pharmacy to order viagra safe places to buy viagra es posible quedar embarazada despues de usar cytotec sildenafil 50 mg es peligroso 5m cialis reviews does viagra increase erection size viagra of the amazon does clomid cause menopause diflucan in gravidanza viagra lasting longer in bed troche viagra reviews malaysia viagra price viagra tablets for men in karachi ciprofloxacin guercmorteo online vibramycin 100 mg prospect buy cialis miami cialis generic cheap socialist party usa voter base generic viagra capsules use of prednisone in breastfeeding mothers viagra chewable tablets finasteride 1 mg alternate days buy ciprofloxacin hcl no prescription zithromax costco auto how much viagra may i take in a month lopraz 20 mg prednisone buy viagra in melbourne vic 1000 mg zithromax for sale metformin and glipizide cost pcos clomid twins how soon before sex can i take viagra elfpack tartes w660 r8bb001 generic cialis counteract viagra headache doxycycline dose for treatment of chlamydia metformin hcl er 500 mg tab sun flower cialis online drugs doxycycline for pimples reviews how effective is metformin in weight loss diflucan for candida australia viagra dogase price sildenafil tabletten 100mg how much does genuine cialis cost 20 mg canada phsrmacy order zithromax rowcmoadreders generic pill shop viagra where to buy cialis 20mg with paypal payment option when is generic viagra due out cialis 10mg filmtabletten preis do you need a prescription for viagra in greece how long does the accutane process take cipro xr ciprofloxacino cialis prices ontario purchase viagra in london drugs tesco viagra pharmacy socialism in the military buy prednisolone acetate 1 viagra available over the counter in canada finasteride online no prescription doxycycline dosage elephantiasis how long can a person take doxycycline cialis case study ppt doxycycline uses in acne safe to take more than 20mg of cialis german hunting terrier for sale in uk zithromax where can i purchase viagra in lisbon portugal bolsa de arpillera donde comprar viagra i snort 20 mg cialis hpb finasteride 5mg get viagra india pyridium generico do viagra skin specialist in dallas buying ciprofloxacin india viagra indian tablets 500g tadalafil citrate liquid ml dosage propecia half dose effective beli cytotec online safe viagra super force dulox how long can i stay on prednisone tablets uk nexplanon implant positive reviews of zoloft how long can you take 10 mg prednisone sildenafil citrate female ciprodex otico generico de crestor do sandoz make generic viagra what websites should i buy viagra off nick villarreal la viagra dj zoloft usa prescription where to buy epistane and nolvadex sildenafil teva 50 mg prezzo in farmacia viagra for women liquid in egypt prednisolone 5 mg shortage of teachers zovirax cream online no prescription canada donde comprar cytotec cuenca ecuador cialis reviews by young men 150 mg zoloft withdrawal dizziness dapoxetine india sun pharma cranbury clomid medicine how much in saudi arabia cavalieri del reale ordine di cipro 5mg cialis best prices tengo 1 mes de embarazo puedo usar cytotec efeito do viagra generico how to buy viagra in pharmacy amlokind 10 mg prednisone how long can you take clomid for how much cialis can you take in a day la sportiva trango womens reviews on cialis priligy buy online ukash java hashmap iterator example generics for viagra que web fiable para comprar cialis es cialis help in premature ejaculation how can i get accutane cialis paypal accepted online generic viagra soft reviews american food supermarket uk viagra buy nolvadex ireland reliable pharmacy viagra generic zovirax 30mg ointment cream to buy viagra sales 2014 zoloft generic walmart benadryl nolvadex and clomid uk top which is the best viagra available in bangalore viagra cialis spam best value for generic viagra doxycycline feline dosage ml online viagra ads is it bad to take accutane viagra prices in srilanka line prescriptions viagra qual o generico de cialis for daily use amlodipine besylate 10 mg cipla viagra burana 400 mg bivirkninger av zoloft cual es el mejor generico de viagra sartan 50 mg zoloft does generic zovirax pills cause yeast buy cialis using mastercard in costa treating epididymitis with doxycycline doxycycline nausea help can you take doxycycline for acne 100 mg per dose dapoxetine whartisthebestin uses cialis 5mg le prix amoxil 125 mg syrup dispenser canada viagra customs how best to take doxycycline should i take estrogen with clomid propecia with minoxidil atoris 10 mg nebenwirkungen viagra how long does nausea last doxycycline costo de la pastilla del viagra can we use lasix injection in 1st month of pregnancy viagra price in saudia viagra 25 mg coupon girls viagra in india mankind cialis canada brand mepradec capsules 20 mg prednisone lasix in acute heart failure grupo farmacologico metformin 500 mg where can i get cytotec pills in malaysia viagra kaufen mit paypal nolvadex and clomid for pct 20 mg tadalafil or 100mg viagra nome del viagra generico in farmacia doxycycline bitter taste in mouth ciprofloxacin doxycycline together gold max female viagra uk viagra shop online india genericos do viagra comes viagra do you need prescription london priligy 30 mg hakkinda yorumlar buying clomid no prescription viagra brand name fedex where can i get dapoxetine hydrochloride can we buy ciprofloxacin in mercury drugs store onset of action of propranolol acquisto cialis generico online sicuro group generic alternatives accutane in which pharmacy can i find viagra in bangladesh dhaka clomid tqeovertoz price viagra generico sms teva doxycycline 100 mg and pregnancy metformin use in ivf appetite suppressant safe with zoloft side can i buy cialis online in australia clomid really works liquid tamox vs nolvadex for gynecomastia ciprofloxacina actavis 250 mg dandruff caused by accutane what symptoms does viagra treat priligy hereisthebestin australia is it safe to conceive while taking viagra nortriptilina 25 mg zoloft is it safe to take clomid while breastfeeding metformin cost price uk viagra viagra online shopping in australia cialis mail order catalogs walgreens generic finasteride order accutane no prescription Kiwipolitico » Blog Archive » “Its OK–He’s Maori.”

“Its OK–He’s Maori.”

datePosted on 14:50, January 10th, 2014 by Pablo

For me the most distressing part of the video of the drunk nine year old made public a few days ago was not so much his addled state, the nonchalant comments of the other kids with him, the RTD that was supplied to him or the adult that did the supplying. Nor am I interested in whether the cameraman has some sort of agenda that motivated the video.

What bothers me most is the above remark by an older teenager who was at the skate park at the time of the incident, and who is seen on tape commenting aggressively about the videotaping (by a Pakeha) of the young drunk. The nine year old and teenager are, indeed, Maori, as were the other kids in the video.

I am not sure what to make of the comment. Was it just some stupid remark by a flippant youth? Or is there something deeper going on here? If the latter, is that more reflective of the individual teenager who said it or is there something collective at play? Is this a case of self-loathing, hopelessness, bravado or self-exemption enunciated in a simple phrase and if so, is it confined to this particular kid or that group of kids? Why would he offer such a response when confronted by a stranger remonstrating about the drunk kid?

What does his comment say about the state of NZ society, if it says anything significant at all?

I have no answers for this nor do I have the expertise on Maori issues to offer one. I would be loathe to do so in any event because all of the alternatives appear to be equally bad, so put the queries out there for readers to comment upon and debate.

17 Responses to ““Its OK–He’s Maori.””

  1. Christian Weston Chandler on January 10th, 2014 at 18:40

    Further sign of the moral, cultural and ethical decay that is the necessary result of living in a society on the brink of oblivion. We are taught that we do not need to care about others that the onyl thing that matters is the almighty DOLLAR. And while the politicians have their eye on the bottom line the ordinary people suffer. When will the SHEEPLE of New Zealand wake up and see the reality of economic decay and environmental devastation? Those who have the opportunity must flee but I pray for those of us who remain here because only the Buddha can save them.

  2. Pablo on January 10th, 2014 at 19:08

    Christian:

    I was thinking of more proximate causes or reasons.

  3. Linz on January 11th, 2014 at 07:36

    “Those who have the opportunity must flee but I pray for those of us who remain here because only the Buddha can save them.” I think Christian, you’d better find out more about what Buddhism.

    Here’s what the Buddha said, “So, Ananda, you must be lamps unto yourselves. Rely on yourselves, and do not rely on external help. Hold firm to the truth as a lamp and a refuge, and do not look for refuge to anything beside yourselves. A brother becomes his own lamp and refuge by continually looking on his body, feelings, perceptions, moods, and ideas in such a manner that he conquers the cravings and depressions of ordinary men and is always strenuous, self-possessed, and collected in mind. Whoever among my disciples does this, either now or when I am dead, if he is anxious to learn, will reach the summit…(Digha Nikaya 2,99-100).

    Oneself, indeed, is one’s savior, for what other savior could there be? With oneself well-controlled one obtains a savior difficult to find (Dhammapada 160).

  4. Chris Waugh on January 11th, 2014 at 12:57

    Indeed, Christian, not only is your comment not especially helpful, people have been saying for thousands of years that society is going to hell in a handbasket, on the brink of oblivion, however you want to put it. One could perhaps summarise Confucius’ entire teaching as a lament for the ethical and moral collapse of Chinese society. If only we could go back to the good old days of the Western Zhou…

    Pablo, I have no idea how your questions can be answered, knowing nothing more about the case than what I’ve seen online and having not lived in NZ for 14 years. I suspect that, as is usually the case, it’s a complex mix of personal, familial, societal and historical factors, with everything from careless teenage flippancy to the stubborn hangover of colonialism having a part to play.

  5. Pablo on January 11th, 2014 at 13:14

    Chris:

    I could well be wrong but I get the sense that what he meant was “we play by different rules” or “the standard rules do not apply to us.” The question then is what is “us” and why don’t the rules apply to them?

    I also found it disturbing that the Green party co-leader Metiria Turei referred to the neighborhood where the park is located as a “decile one” area. Schools may be ranked in deciles but I am not sure that entire neighborhoods are ranked in such ways. It gave me the impression that she saw the area as hopeless, which I am sure is not the impression that she wanted to convey.

  6. simone on January 12th, 2014 at 09:15

    From my viewpoint I see a low socio economic area equalling low self esteem in a world that constantly tells us the measure of worth is measured in dollars. I see a young Maori boy who has statistics telling him he has little chance in life. It is a comment of inevitability nothing more.

  7. Pablo on January 12th, 2014 at 10:07

    Thanks Simone, for the insight.

    Could it be, given his young age (I am referring to the teenager, not the nine year old) that his sense of negative inevitability or resignation makes him equate all Maori with low socio-economic status? My initial thought was that he was equating all Maori with his particular circumstances, neighborhood or wider social circles, but your point makes me wonder if he simply equates being poor and lacking in life opportunities with being Maori (i.e., he sees poverty as race-based rather than socio-economic). I still remain puzzled about the “Its OK” remark, unless that was simply a linguistic deflection in the face of a stranger’s judgement.

  8. Andrew Sheldon on January 13th, 2014 at 19:00

    It seems to be a repeated scheme here that ‘its the folly of the All Mighty Dollar “constantly tells us the measure of worth is measured in dollars”. The dollar is a measure; a person is the appraiser. If you don’t like the appraisal, you don’t have to accept it. Of course that speaks to the education system and parenting, and that says something about societal values, govt policy and the global context. That global context is blanket abuse of fiscal/monetary spending by govts and a historic legacy of tyranny in the third world which has suddenly released a lot of labour with liberalisation. Conditions are great in Asia, as well as for skilled NZ’ers, Australians and Americans. Its the unskilled people who are being left behind. The problem was poor policy in the 1960s and 1970s. The price is being paid today with the resulting ‘statist imbalances’ and tired old ‘deluded representative democracy’ proscriptions.

  9. Christian Weston Chandler on January 13th, 2014 at 22:21

    Pablo something is weird and sinister. My posts to your wall are disappearing. I have tried to bring this to your attention but dark forces have silenced me. What is the bottom of this?

  10. Pablo on January 14th, 2014 at 08:06

    Andrew:

    In a weird way your comment mirrors Christian’s. The focus on meta-analytic factors (rightly or wrongly, and as positive or negative factors) seems overgeneralized and does not address the meso- and micro-level structure of opportunities that impinge on the world view of this particular young man, which may or may not be shared by a wider circle of Maori. Blaming the plight of this fellow on the failed polices of the 60s and 70s seems a bit of a stretch, and the remark about “tired old deluded representative democracy proscriptions” does not make sense (e.g. what proscriptions? What is being outlawed or prohibited? Did you mean prescriptions?)

    Christian: I am not sure what may have happened but the likely explanation is that you comments got sent to the spam bin. Since we get 3000-5000 spams daily I empty the folder two-three times per day without reading through them, so may have inadvertently deleted them doing so. If so, then the dark forces are the over zealous spam detector and me as its unwitting accomplice.

  11. Andrew Sheldon on January 14th, 2014 at 11:42

    What can I say Pablo, its a ‘general problem’, ‘unskilled’. That levels open entirely solutions which might entertain the nature of the skills deficit, be it low self-esteem, lack of degree, lack of intellectual efficacy, ethical dilemmas, whether Maori or non-Maori. It would be unrealistic to expect me to address all that in a 2-paragraph reply. Yes, I could look back further to Roman times, but that entertains the same problem. How can I address the specifics of this child when I don’t know his context. All I am to know is that ‘he’s drunk’.

  12. Pablo on January 14th, 2014 at 14:25

    Andrew:

    The person I am focused on is not the drunk kid but the older kid who made the comment in the title. It is his world view that I am concerned about and I do not think that it is reducible to macro-level conditions or his likely being unskilled. There surely are intervening variables at play that brought forth this specific manifestation of alienation, which is why I am curious as to what they might be.

  13. Foh on January 14th, 2014 at 16:09

    If only it were somehow possible to communicate with these natives & find out what they were thinking,if they think. They’re unfathomable…

    Think I can translate. It means, mind your own business. Go back to England.

  14. paul scott on January 14th, 2014 at 17:33

    I don’t see it as a Maori thing. I see it as a father/boy thing. If boys don’t have active fathers things go sad. I could be wrong about these kids but I think not.

  15. Pablo on January 14th, 2014 at 18:46

    Thanks Foh, that was very useful.

    Paul: The kid said “Its OK–he’s Maori” not “Its OK–he’s fatherless” or “his father is a dick.” Unless you read into his statement that all Maori have absent dads, then I do not think it is a father/boy thing (although can be part of whatever syndrome is being exhibited here, if any).

  16. barry on January 23rd, 2014 at 10:32

    A fact of life in NZ society is that there are two types of people. One type are those that recognise that they have to work to have a reasonable life. Work doesnt only mean work for a wage, but can mean lots of things.
    And then there are those who dont share this vision. For a whole range of reasons they basically dont give a rats arse about regular work habbits.
    Unfortunately there are a large proportion of maori in this category. There are many reasons – drop dead parents, a cultural attitude that doesnt regard this state of affairs as wrong, ‘Wet behind the ears’ liberals who forgive this situation by claiming that colonialists have caused it all, a belief that treaty claims will solve it all – and it wont – thus giving rise to a negative attitude when people find this out.

    Apirama Ngata predicted that welfare would be the ruination of his race – and hes been proven right.
    Those children at the skate park were the offspring of parents and family who dont work, dont give a toss responsibility and so on.

    And people like me are tired of being told its ‘societies’ problem. It aint – its a lack of maori leadership.

    Non maori society has a much higher level of understanding that effort and work and family ties that are real (and not just symbolic) are important – and these people look at the maori underclass and shrug their shoulders. This is because the only way the improve things is from within maori.

  17. kiwiburger on November 26th, 2014 at 16:06

    Hi barry, you are sort of right. There are however 3 types of people. The bottom people dont give a rats arse, the lives of the 2nd tier of bottom people actually did give a ratsarse, however due to alienation at school, being told they are stupid, dont bother doing that its to hard etc, they gave up and now clean your childrens toilets at school, or pick your rubbish up off the curb every week. The middle ones are the ones that the rules applying to the bottom lot, didnt apply to them, the ones at the top, the golden ones, are the rule makers, rule breakers, the money holders, the money takers, they are the ones that make or break a country. What makes me sad is after 170+ years the conqueror s are still scratching their heads in bewilderment over the same maori problem. Things cannot improve
    within maori without sustained support from the very people creating the problems. To suggest anything else is a cop out.
    this maori boy is what i see within my wider whanau. He has already stepped away from living the white dream and probably his only dream now is to have a good dinner and have a good nights sleep without anybody in his home fighting after to much drinking :(

Leave a Reply

Name: (required)
Email: (required) (will not be published)
Website:
Comment: